tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post428560897323712620..comments2024-03-27T04:46:33.198-07:00Comments on Portable Antiquity Collecting and Heritage Issues: Two wrongs make a Right for collector?Paul Barfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-36943768173316476932009-10-21T01:59:06.765-07:002009-10-21T01:59:06.765-07:00Peter Tompa just does not get it does he?
He'...Peter Tompa just does not get it does he? <br /><br />He's still posting about what he read on the internet... http://culturalpropertyobserver.blogspot.com/2009/10/reports-about-detention-of-iraqi-pms.html<br /><br />So HOW many people were arrested, and who are/were they? Mr Tompa? <br /><br />So, the lawyer will be able to tell us on what grounds they were "arrested". What law of Dubai was broken?<br /><br />Mr Tompa presumes the story happened as presented - and assumes that it was "swept under the carpet". Does this mean that those illicit artefacts (if such there were) are now in the US? So who would buy them now? Or perhaps Mr Tompa's story can be implied to mean its OK to buy them, as members of the state elite of the source country are encouraging it? <br /><br />All very confusing. I'd suggest Mr Tompa gets his facts straight before casting stones at me or anyone else (including the Iraqi PM who he names and says is guilty). <br /><br />In Iraq a man went to jail for insulting a foreign head of state (with two shoes while Nouri Kamil al-Maliki looked on), obviously in the state that person heads one can say whatever insulting rubbish you like about Iraqi heads of state.Paul Barfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-27039578727317253322009-10-16T08:47:32.228-07:002009-10-16T08:47:32.228-07:00What larks. Somebody who claims to be a “Cultural ...What larks. Somebody who claims to be a “Cultural property Observer” cannot even read English, even the English he himself writes. In a long “comment” on his blog, Peter Tompa <a href="http://culturalpropertyobserver.blogspot.com/2009/10/iraqi-pms-relatives-are-said-to-be.html?showComment=1255613285694#c3944294450561978135" rel="nofollow">now posts a comment of mine that he REJECTED</a> (!): In doing so, he merely muddies the water further.<br /><br />1) Tompa specifically claims in his blog post that his text is based on an Arabic website, to which he gave a link. He then says it is in some way confirmed that the same information appears elsewhere (an example of the “<em>I know it’s true, I read it on the Internet</em>” syndrome): “<em>I trust by now you have seen a similar report on the Iraq Crisis List with regard to the subject of this blog post. I believe that renders your other questions moot</em>.” No, no it does not. Far from it.<br /><br />So where did Mr Tompa get the TRANSLATION from? Well, not from the website he points us to, maybe another? Google "Lamia al-Gailani Werr" "Nouri Kamil al-Maliki" and see what you get… "<a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Lamia+al-Gailani+Werr%22+%22Nouri+Kamil+al-Maliki%22&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=" rel="nofollow">Lamia al-Gailani Werr"+"Nouri Kamil al-Maliki</a>" Odd, that.<br /><br />So did Ms Lamia mail it to Tompa and he posted it for her an hour before it appeared on the Iraqi Crisis list based in Chicago? Who knows. <br /><br />2) Tompa then goes on to „explain” that “<em>Incidentally, though the translation of the Arabic source is confusing, the title of the blog post should make clear that the Iraqi PM's relatives stand accused of smuggling-- not the PM himself</em>.” Eh? But the text BEGINS “<strong>Nouri Kamil al-Maliki </strong>the Brother in Law on the Prime Minister of Iraq Dr al-Maliki <strong>had s been detained at Dhubai airport</strong>, he was caught with Sumerian antiquities trying to smuggle them to the United States”. Now my question to the lawyer was: “<em>Is Nouri Kamil al-Maliki no longer the Prime Minister?</em>” Well, as far as the rest of us are aware he is, and he is not his own brother in law. Neither has he been arrested at Dubai airport. So not only has Tompa has got something wrong, but he apparently still does not understand where.<br /><br />3) Tompa "justifies" his interest in the gentleman's fate: “<em>The Arabic sources suggested these relatives were also getting preferential treatment, which is what prompted my original post</em>”. How many "relative<strong>s</strong>"? I think that if Mr Tompa was arrested in an airport (let it be Dubai airport) on similar charges (<strong>czego mu serdecznie zyczę</strong>) I think there would be some people from the US embassy and his pals trying to get him out too. <br /><br />4) He did not like my comment because "<em>I found it potentially defamatory of the officers and members of the ACCP</em>." Well, we are told the ACCP no longer exists. I actually asked who it would be buying such objects, and a group of people that came to mind was a group of collectors etc. who were reportedly urging back at the beginning of that decade the "<em>loosening of the laws for everybody</em>", specifically with regard to ancient collectable objects from Iraq (though former members of the group now claim they never said any such thing). The board of the "<a href="http://paul-barford.blogspot.com/2009/08/old-wine-in-new-skins-cultural-policy.html" rel="nofollow">Institute</a>" of which Mr Tompa is <a href="http://paul-barford.blogspot.com/2009/08/cultural-property-research-institute-to.html-" rel="nofollow">now a member</a> of the board is comprised mainlty of ex-ACCP people: could that explain his sensitivity to remarks about ideas being propagated by the former ACCP?Paul Barfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.com