tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post5197198372814167320..comments2024-03-27T04:46:33.198-07:00Comments on Portable Antiquity Collecting and Heritage Issues: UK Detectorist Julian Evan-Hart on Crossby Garrett Helmet: Well Done That Man!Paul Barfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-69024239767776243552010-11-22T10:18:51.867-08:002010-11-22T10:18:51.867-08:00Sorry but sod the pot!!!”
This comment by Jee mak...Sorry but sod the pot!!!”<br /><br />This comment by Jee makes me wonder what would happen if the Holy Grail was discovered.<br /><br />It would not look like the Holy Grail of Authurian legend. It would probably just be a pot made of clay.<br /><br />Would it be thrown in the hedge and discarded? It would not be classed as treasure so it could be restored to within an inch of it's life and sold to the highest bidder.Mohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09866756476202032662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-81018024187353343272010-11-22T00:20:28.626-08:002010-11-22T00:20:28.626-08:00It is quite clear that "outreach" for th...It is quite clear that "outreach" for the PAS these days is "getting stuff on the database". Having churned out a voluntary "code of responsible detecting" (actually a rehash of an ancient pre-existing CBA document) that basically says "responsible" means staying within that law (big deal), we are losing the idea that "best practice" means ethical artefact hunting and collecting. A point made very well by Heritage Action I feel. <br /><br />The PAS is quite clearly in no state to do the sort of outreach to the people it calls its "partners" in the field of the ethics of collecting as currently understood by archaeology in general (ie outside the British Isles). So yes, I agree, until we get some kind of proper conservation-based and archaeology-informed response from the PAS, "false pretences" just about covers it. <br /><br />But I do not expect you'll find many jobsworth British archaeologists admitting it.Paul Barfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-58137505160586104112010-11-21T23:41:17.664-08:002010-11-21T23:41:17.664-08:00Perhaps PAS should drop the term outreach on the g...Perhaps PAS should drop the term outreach on the grounds it is taking taxpayers' money under false pretences?<br /><br />General Pitt Rivers, Sir Mortimer Wheeler and the English Heritage Outreach Department outreached to the reachable and willing but it has been clear for ages that PAS outreach is now mostly to the unwilling and unreachable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-4945207647522024092010-11-21T23:14:51.714-08:002010-11-21T23:14:51.714-08:00Thanks Jee for that comment. I find it interesting...Thanks Jee for that comment. I find it interesting that detectorists think anything in the ground is "decaying", even deeply buried pots. <br /><br />I find his comments on the Crosby Garrett helmet astounding. I wonder how many artefact hunters in the UK secretly share this view? Probably quite a lot I would say. I think this is another touchstone of the actual effects of thirteen years PAS outreach to them, no amount of sympathetic and diplomatic outreach is going to change attitudes like this, is it?Paul Barfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-777376408135184282010-11-21T22:58:06.940-08:002010-11-21T22:58:06.940-08:00Good grief, everything’s fine then, it was a pains...Good grief, everything’s fine then, it was a painstaking process, no information has been lost and we can all be happy that “a private individual now can cherish the artefact as can we all by looking at all the information and images of it.”!<br /><br />I think his view of “painstaking” and damage and information loss is well illustrated here - (read it in Gollum's voice!) <br /><br />“I dream of digging down and hearing the crunch of decayed grey ware, looking down and seeing loads of yellow and silver edges spilling out....oh wow!!! Sorry but sod the pot!!!” <br /><br />http://detectorcommunity.ning.com/group/thehoardhunters?groupUrl=thehoardhunters&id=2427150%3AGroup%3A19764&page=2#commentsJeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00889609889680163743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-34546053978164149952010-11-21T11:29:49.751-08:002010-11-21T11:29:49.751-08:00I think everybody with an interest in and concern ...I think everybody with an interest in and concern about history should. Their supporters would have a much harder time pulling the wool over people's eyes then.Paul Barfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-64047194423218488902010-11-21T11:10:53.663-08:002010-11-21T11:10:53.663-08:00Views such as those are why I recently suggested t...Views such as those are why I recently suggested that someone should ask Lord Renfrew to sign up to a few metal detecting forums.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com