tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post8036653439314722765..comments2024-03-27T04:46:33.198-07:00Comments on Portable Antiquity Collecting and Heritage Issues: Bangor Bloggers versus the PreservationistsPaul Barfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-70531532729118733482018-04-15T01:33:23.425-07:002018-04-15T01:33:23.425-07:00"Not that we believe it will help Paul Barfor..."Not that we believe it will help Paul Barford, since it is our feeling that he has long dug himself into too deep a hole to be able to get out again; or even see the need to stop shovelling". <br /><br />Pompous gits, both of you. Maybe you both might like to consider whether we are digging holes with different tools and aims. Do you both really think your hole is better than mine, without even looking properly at it?<br /><br />If you think my hole is the wrong hole, explain why - but first of all try and work out what it actually is, rather than what you imagine it to be. Is that not what academics do? Analyse ideas? Put them in context of other ideas rather than just shout down the opposition? Paul Barfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-71992109963886732032018-04-15T01:07:27.881-07:002018-04-15T01:07:27.881-07:00Thanks for that, I see you have gone for the '...Thanks for that, I see you have gone for the 'misunderstood/playing the victim' mode that always seems to be activated the moment that anyone actually tries to engage with the 'let's work with collectors' arguments:<br /><br />"<i>Just claiming our results are wrong just because he doesn’t like them, and try to explain our data away, without even having bothered to properly understand what we are actually saying, will not"</i>.<br /><br />That's a bit pathetic really.<br /><br />Perhaps you just did not explain yourself in a way that makes it possible to accommodate your views alongside those of others approaching the issues from another angle and point of view. <br /><br />I'll respond just as soon as I get my head above water with an overdue editing project delayed by my illness. Paul Barfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-26606496068432832042018-03-21T04:50:08.735-07:002018-03-21T04:50:08.735-07:00Our response can be found here: https://archdenk.b...Our response can be found here: https://archdenk.blogspot.co.uk/2018/03/not-whether-but-how.htmlRaimund Karlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15884340512561416789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-54526425404289650262018-03-05T11:26:45.552-08:002018-03-05T11:26:45.552-08:00Yes, I am going to do another post assessing their...Yes, I am going to do another post assessing their arguments and this was precisely one of the points I was going to raise. Also odd that they do not mention Robbins' text on the PAS (Guide for researchers... August 2014) which was out well before they started collecting material... and the PAS estimate is higher than theirs https://finds.org.uk/documents/guideforresearchers.pdfPaul Barfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-62770958550583766792018-03-05T00:40:45.037-08:002018-03-05T00:40:45.037-08:00This bit from Sam Hardy's paper amused me:
&q...This bit from Sam Hardy's paper amused me:<br /><br />"Based on forum membership, it has been estimated that there are at least 7,331 detectorists in the UK (as of 2nd March 2015, cited by Karl & Möller, 2016, p. 3 – Table 1), which would imply 6,520 in England and Wales."<br /><br />I think Karl & Möller need to update their estimate (and review their whole standpoint) in view of the fact this metal detecting Facebook Group, https://www.facebook.com/groups/AFUDGE/ , one of many, has 22,854 members!<br /><br />Junk in, junk out, eh?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com