tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post8153677463747002180..comments2024-03-27T04:46:33.198-07:00Comments on Portable Antiquity Collecting and Heritage Issues: Intelligently weighing facts and circumstancesPaul Barfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-18575628274629207672014-08-30T15:37:39.079-07:002014-08-30T15:37:39.079-07:00no doubt.no doubt.Nathan Elkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13060145336179440359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-56059559455756755562014-08-30T12:03:18.852-07:002014-08-30T12:03:18.852-07:00I'd like to think you were justifiably angry a...I'd like to think you were justifiably angry at the travesty of the non-arguments of the no-question-asked-purveyors. Paul Barfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-7323374957299854552014-08-30T11:43:51.599-07:002014-08-30T11:43:51.599-07:00wow, typos in that comment of mine! I'd like ...wow, typos in that comment of mine! I'd like to blame the new keyboard at least for "internet [t]rolls".Nathan Elkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13060145336179440359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-27458860154683745772014-08-30T11:30:41.167-07:002014-08-30T11:30:41.167-07:00Yes, that is a point that came out very clearly in...Yes, that is a point that came out very clearly in the commenting following the publication of a text referring to your Biblical Archaeology Review article. <br /><br />http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/archaeology-today/cultural-heritage/ancient-coins-and-looting/#comment-158814<br /><br />It became clear that there was a discrete group whose sole concern was to deflect discussion by a series of trollish tactice which coin dealers and metal detectorists share. As I said at the end: "<i>I think if you look through the sixty-odd comments above, one can see clearly who is interested in discussing the issues Elkins points out, and who is putting a lot of effort into deflecting attention away and discouraging further discussion of those issues. <b>What collectors and dealers are doing here is not controlling the debate, but alienating themselves from it</b>".</i><br /><br />You are right, this sort of behaviour only ensures that when the direction of change is discussed, it will largely be done behind the backs of people like this and those they claim to represent. Serves them right. <br />Paul Barfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-71241983688974629652014-08-30T11:13:36.864-07:002014-08-30T11:13:36.864-07:00The notion that Mr. Sayles and Tompa search are af...The notion that Mr. Sayles and Tompa search are after genuine dialogue is pretty laughable. As you and others have pointed out, their blogs of full of little more than vitriol and personal attacks - hardly the way to have a "genuine dialogue", especially when you forbid the posting of contrary opinions. They also attempt to compromise the employment of those in the academic community whose opinions and work their fear or disagree with. Again, hardly a way to have a "genuine dialogue". As I have stated and written before, you can't have a dialogue with commercial interests whose sole purpose is to maintain a damaging status quo. The reasons they seek to maintain it is obvious and that they seek to maintain is apparent by their own tactics and statements. If there is to be a constructive dialogue, the obstructionist commercial interest must be circumnavigated. There are indeed many collectors and dealers who disagree with these people and their goals. It is unfortunate that they are rather quiet as such agitators represent the trade badly. But it is often true that more productive dialogue can be achieved quietly, without the attention of internet rolls.Nathan Elkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13060145336179440359noreply@blogger.com