tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post7888995446969253024..comments2024-03-27T04:46:33.198-07:00Comments on Portable Antiquity Collecting and Heritage Issues: On ‘saving’ the Crosby Garrett helmetPaul Barfordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-23769584572525542792010-09-30T02:09:35.538-07:002010-09-30T02:09:35.538-07:00Fugitive Ink, thanks. The comment about the PAS wa...Fugitive Ink, thanks. The comment about the PAS was not a criticism, I agree with everything else, just pointing ouyut there are things going on in the background that are not being so openly discussed. <br /><br />Mo, you know these really are aspects more suited to the PAS comments section than this blog, where I am more interested in the aspects concerning artefact hunting and collecting. Perhaps one reason why nobody is keen on discussing the historical background may be that there are really very serious doubts about the finding and subsequent treatment of this object. Until the PAS gets along there and does a proper investigation (including excavation) to determine what can be recovered now post-fact about the context of the deposition of this object (like was it part of a hoard) can we say anything at all apart from "ooo - nice, how very interesting!". <br /><br />Try asking the PAS where you can find their discussion of these aspects of this find as part of their public outreach. While you are at it, ask them what legislative changes they have proposed to the public and lawmakers as a result of this well-publicised case.Paul Barfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10443302899233809948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-80151967118201760792010-09-29T16:45:19.593-07:002010-09-29T16:45:19.593-07:00" For instance, one of the various genuinely ..." For instance, one of the various genuinely interesting questions left unanswered by the Christie’s experts is the issue of the helmet’s origins. Where was the helmet made? Does anyone know the answer to this? And who might have worn it?"<br /><br />This is a point I have been trying make but not as eloquently. <br /><br />I find it hard to understand that there has been little comment about the units that were based near to where the helmet was found.<br /><br />At Brough there is evidence of an irregular unit and also a tombstone which is now in the Fitzwilliam Museum. This tombstone is written in Greek which was very unusual. This is five miles from where the helmet was found.<br /><br />At Brougham there is evidence of a cavalry unit from what is now Turkey. <br /> <br />Christies have said is that it looks like the Dacian and Sarmatian helmets on Trajan's Column.<br /><br />If you look at images of the rider's helmet depicted on the funeral stele in the museum at Chester that is what I understand to be a Sarmatian helmet.<br /><br />The draco that the rider is holding is thought to be the origin of the Welsh flag. The draco was also carried by Harold's army at the Battle of Hastings. A powerful image inherited from the Roman auxillaries.<br /><br />"Whoever might have worn this mask – he’s ours, he’s us."<br /><br />I agree, there are people in the borders whose DNA suggest that they are descendants of the auxillary soldiers.<br /><br />We should certainly not be letting our Romano-British heritage go the highest bidder.Mohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09866756476202032662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8174756573570334952.post-30752908403108724162010-09-29T06:23:58.656-07:002010-09-29T06:23:58.656-07:00Thanks for the very generous comments you make it ...Thanks for the very generous comments you make it the course of that link. <br /><br />You're absolutely right, by the way, that I don't properly capture 'the relationship between the finder, Christies and the PAS' - but the reason for this is that, until I explored your blog further, which I only managed to do after I'd finished writing my own post, I was unaware of the complexities of this relationship. For instance, the comments from Roger Bland at the PAS were eye-opening for someone like me - but then there's an enormous amount on your site that's worth reading, to put it mildly, so perhaps next time I'll do better! Heaven knows, the mainstream media is unlikely to trouble us with uncomfortable truths along these lines. Long may you continue to do so, though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com