Friday, 15 July 2022

Leaving La-La-Land: Openly IR-responsible and "UN-responsive"



On a metal detecting Facebook page within mouse-click range of every adherent of the "Suzie and Bonnie "Responsive and Responsible" metal detectorists" factually-unsupported claptrap: thread on PAS and declaring Treasure (a legal obligation)
Chris Lawrence 1day ago
What a pile of b#llocks TTC [sic PMB] changed the Treasure trove act to suit them! And even changed the original curators report! As soon as I went to the hearing I knew my pants was coming down! I'm never handing anything in again I'd rather melt it Down! Coroner n curators are all in the same pocket and corrupt! So they say its jewelry but it goes into their coin collection draw never to be seen by the public wtf¿
Anthony Thomas Time for a strike, we need to stand together and not send anything in until they listen, see how quick things will happen when no more calls are made to flow [sic PMB] around the country.
Bob Tarran
If everyone stopped reporting finds they be all out of a job in six months .
Jestyn Francis Thomas
Join the club, lots of us in it
Bob Carter
I've previously found any number of Treasure items then taken them in for identity with Flo, then taken them on again as I am legally entitled to, then at a later time when I've received a derisory offer I've taken these finds and re buried them for flo to find....
Doug Pickering
I don't know why y'all ever reported your finds
Colin Pearson
Hi well said mate this is my last the PAS doesn't exist any more, DICK TURPIN'S STILL ALIVE, the more people we can get the better, the PAS is just a way of sneaky obtaining an item [...]
Did any of them get kicked out of Mr Fudge's "Responsible and Responsive Detectorists" Facebook group? Check for yourselves. And what's that Bob Carter on about? 
 Mr Carter ignores or is ignorant of the fact that he does not take Treasure to the FLO for "identity", he reports it to the Coronor as per the Treasue Act (law). If they get to the Treasure Valuation Committee, they've already been through the inquest declaring them Treasure, so he does not get then to "take them on again as I am legally entitled to [...] when I've received a derisory offer". The landowner gets to take them home if a museum does not offer to buy them from the landowner. As for the "I've taken these finds and re buried them for flo to find..." that simply betrays the mindset of a retarded nine-year old who understands nothing. The TVC valuation is not the FLO's fault. To bury a Treasure item because he's unsatisfied with the valuation first requires the permission of the landowner who owns it. Secondly it is simply senseless, and thiredly contaminates the archaeological record. It also shows that the oft-repeated mantra "it's not about the money" is just that, a meaningless phrase repeated by people who know it is not true.

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