Tuesday, 16 February 2010

The Little House For The Bigmouth Coin Guys: 206 Elm Street Gainsville, MO

In the post below I discuss the identity of the person in the US to whom the coins seized by US Customs at Baltimore had been sent. Since the text clearly indicates the "ACCG" as the buyer, the address given in that document (206 Elm Street Gainsville, MO 65655) must perforce be that to which the coins had been sent when intercepted. So who may be found at that address?
Well, far from being the sort of place you'd expect illegal coin importers to hang out, this one is called "House of Angels", but that could be a front, since the only product listed on the website is one extreme Christian kitsch angel figurine looking like an anorexic pre-teen nymphette dressed up as an angel. Yuk. There are more however shown here. A shop for wusses. Yuk, Yuk.
So here is the folksy little building from which, according to documents now in Maryland District Court, and the ACCG website, the ACCG is run:
Cute, eh? Love the angel on the roof, nice touch. They also do teas. There we were thinking the ACCG Central Committee gathered round a greasy table in a smoke filled bar with sawdust on the floor to hammer out their demands, ultimatums and plot the downfall of the US State Department overlooked by sinister men in dark glasses and bulky suits. But instead we see that they really meet in a Little House on the Prarie with creamcakes and fairies. No wonder they want collectors to believe in the coin elves.

More interesting is the name of the proprietor of this angelic house, one Doris Sayles. Now that could of course be a pseudonym, you can never tell in the antiquities trade, but since this address is the principal office of the ACCG whose Executive Director is one Wayne Sayles, it seems this is the lady's real name. In fact Doris is Wayne's wife. But interestingly Wayne and Dorothy Sayles do not live at 206 Elm Street, they have a big house at the top of a mountain to the northeast. So maybe Mrs Sayles, the listed proprietor at the address to which it seems the coins were sent, is the actual person from whom the coins were seized? She is seen selling coins with him in 2005.

3 comments:

culturalpropertylaw said...

How will harassing this guy's wife help you accomplish your goals? It makes me to wonder what your goals are...

Paul Barford said...

"Harassing"? The information is out there in websites (much more in fact), all of the stuff I used was posted by the Sayles themselves. The registered address of the ACCG is the building I show and Doris Sayles is the person whose business is registered there.

Paul Barford said...

Coin dealer Alfred de la Fe also thinks I should not have used the Internet to find out more about the registered address of the ACCG of which he is a proud member.

http://jan.imperialcoins.com/blog/2010/02/18/a-call-for-reason-and-logic/

"...and I can imagine his peers muttering under their breaths wondering what he was thinking".
I do not know (or care), perhaps they are at this moment using the links I gave (its advertising after all) ordering angels from the online shop, or thinking of dropping in for tea and a chat about ancient coins.

Nevertheless this IS the address of the ACCG and since all the information I used about the people assocuiated with that address is in the public domain (together with wedding photos and photos of the house, kids and dog which I did not use), there is no reason why it cannot be discussed. If I wanted to "attack" Wayne (who has verbally attacked me a number of times in the past) I certainly could do far worse than that, but that was not my aim, the text is about the ACCG.

Perhaps the problem is rather that collectors would prefer their "Guild" to be based in a large imposing Neo-Gothic brick building in Boston, and are discomfitted by somebody pointing ou that its a Missouri shop.

 
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