Sadly, like a lot of the publications concerning this key (and already controversial) site, the main focus was on the "things" excavated, in this case even the "ancient art". But the stratigraphy of the building was shown. But not very well, and in a rather disturbing form. On Twitter I asked about this:
It's easy to publish the excavated "things", pillars are easy to document, but what we need is the "timely publication" of the stratigraphy. It seems to me one very oblique section through the complex 3D stratigraphic structure (where are the edges of layer [lower pit fill] "1"?) is less than satisfactory as a record of anything. Besides which, the disposition and nature of the structure's infill shown in the section drawing and the photo of the same section, simply do not match! The nature and position of the lower interface of "layer 7" for example. I do not see how these "layers" are defined, there is an unnumbered layer between "5" and "3" (!) What is shown as "layer 4" to the right of the pillar has two parts quite clearly differing in rubble content, that rubble being a spill extending into 2, surely.
To illustrate my point, I used this extract of the published photo of the trench's northern profile that I added a section of the photo of the same profile, adjusted for scale. It seems quite clear to me that there are significant differences, which is documentation, and which is decorative infilling? (because they cannot both be documentation of the stratigraphic sequence and a basis for understanding site formation processes and assemblage 'taphonomy').
Anyway Dr. Oliver Dietrich
@odietrich_ did not answer the question, or refer me to any report that details the actual methods of excavation. He decides to go for insults:
Cutting off an image and telling me a layer is not numbered? Highly professional on your part. And, as you are an archaeologist, you surely know that an image in full sunlight does not show all colour differences/ that layers are also defined by differences in the sediments etc.
Hmm, I think it is fairly clear (though I admit I did not explain it in detail- this was Twitter) that I have taken a PORTION of the published section to illustrate the point I was making. I chose the bit between the bench and the standing stone, as these provided fixed points against the disposition of the stones could be judged in both (besides which it is utterly unclear what happens at the left end of that section).
The layer that is not numbered is the layer that I said was not numbered. I assumed that "5" referred to the slumped part of the wall, and "6" the truncation of that same wall. It seems not:
Paul Barford @PortantIssues · 19m Eh? What and where is the number of the black layer on the right between the collapsing wall (5) and layer "3"? There is NOTHING "unprofessional" in questioning a publication, that is why we publish our results, no? Yes, if you actually read what I wrote, you will see that I am not referring merely to "colour" but precisely the density, disposition, actual shape and size of the rock fragments in the photo, versus the way the drawing depicts them. We could also look at the relationship between the lower interface of Layer 7 and the top of the pillar. But the main issue is that one oblique section obviously cannot be the only record of a complex 3D series of deposits.I think we need less emphasis on the excavated "finds" and more on the context.
Dr. Oliver Dietrich
@odietrich_
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5. 5 is the number of the layer.
Paul Barford
@PortantIssues
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So what is the number of the wall?
Dr. Oliver Dietrich
@odietrich_
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Why does it need a number?
O k***a... Excuse my Polish, That surprised me.
Paul Barford @PortantIssues Well, yeah. Heinrich Schliemann did not number them either, I was hoping things had come on a bit since then. How many stratigraphic units can we see in this photo? The DAI has dug out some of the soft bits, leaving selected hard bits. How many, what are their 'relationships? 3:54 PM · Sep 1, 2024
Picture in public domain of surfaces of what seems to have been excavated as "Layer II" and "Layer III":
Nobody on Twitter wanted to count. What actually is happening here? From this overview shot this looks like the excavation methods of G.P. Bushe Foxe at Wroxeter, where he dug down until he hit something hard, a wall stump or floor, which he left upstanding. I think we should be expecting here where the DAI is a guest in Turkey applying their best techniques, we should be seeing there something more like Graham Webster's work at Wroxeter at least, if not Philip Barker's. No? Let us see what future publications show us. But please no more digging until they've published what they have and we can assess the effectiveness for post-excavation processing of the current excavation and recording methods.
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An archaeological colleague, who wishes to remain anonymous, has made the following comment on this situation:
" It's not just the context numbering that goes awry. My eye was initially drawn to the right hand pillar on the K9-87 drawing. Compare it to the photo. The photo shows two woven plastic bags supporting the blocks above , but the blocks are drawn on top of each other without any overhang (filled by the bags in the photo). Even the carved surface is not properly represented-on the photo it appears as though there is a raised area, defined by two clear lines, that becomes one on the drawing. The small block to the left bottom falls away at the back in the photo, but is shown rising in the drawing. The more one looks at the pillar, the more mismatches one sees
Looking much closer, the position and shape of stones in the fills does appear to be at odds between photo and drawing. Admittedly, the photo is from a slightly oblique angle as opposed to the drawing, which might be responsible for the perceived differences. However, when one of the main features, the carved pillar, is so poorly represented it makes you wonder.
I fail to see any reason to misrepresent the section and must assume it is just poor technique".
Of course, it as the pillars that were the main topic of the paper discussed...
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