Saturday 22 April 2023

Placing it on the Map: More Metal Detecting Excitement in Millom, UK

 

(NW Mail)

There are forty thousand tekkies in the UK according to the PAS. Most of them stay coyly silent about what they are finding and taking. Another group jump onto the forums when they come home from a day in the field boasting wotta-lotta-stuff they'd cleverly found. Still others get into the local papers (Darren Shield, 'Millom metal detectorist Josh Carr Easter weekend findings' NW Mail 13th April 2023)

Millom metal detectorist Josh Carr has continued his hot streak of historical finds over the Easter Weekend after unearthing yet more artefacts that shed light on the region's past. [...] The Millom and District Local History Society posted on its website that Josh had found 'lots of lead musket balls of different sizes' (indicative of the Civil War battle that took place around Millom Castle), an 1872 Queen Victoria gothic florin, a 1571 Queen Elizabeth I hammered coin, and a possible Roman stylus. The enthusiast has made several important discoveries in the Millom area, ranging from an Iron Age terret ring to a silver Marcus Aurelius denarii, two Roman trumpet brooches, and many other coins from Henry II up to Queen Victoria, including several of Queen Elizabeth I.
The "stylus" is nothing of the kind. The article does not mention PAS or anything about codes, permission. So basically its the same type of text that could have been written in the 1980s before PAS began doing all that expensive "outreach" that's just not getting anywhere.

This is the same guy that allegedly has been "rewriting history" by finding PREhistoric metalwork in the same area (Darren Shield, 'Millom metal detectorist Josh Carr finds sixth axe head' NW Mail 19th March 2023).

Three happy guys metal detecting on grass (NW Mail) [edited]

A metal detectorist could be 'rewriting the history of Millom' after a series of discoveries pointing to ancient settlements on the peninsula. When Josh Carr reported his three metal axe head finds in January experts told him to go out and find more - so he is doing just that. Josh has just found his sixth, equalling the number of metal axe heads found in one hoard in Cumbria [...] Josh is a keen metal detectorist who is interested not only in the history of the objects he finds but is proud to come from Millom and wants to 'put Millom on the historical map'. [...] All of his finds show that the Millom area was inhabited from Prehistoric times up until the modern era.
"Go out and find more" in a pasture field that has potential earthworks in it: 
Chair of the Millom and District Local History Society Jan Bridget aims to secure funding for archaeologists to further excavate the area, which contains 'interesting earthworks', to further prove the existence of an ancient hill fort.
This is the same hoard in pasture that we discussed here a few months ago when he had a beard and a taste for prancing around in combat gear: PACHI, ' Time Travelling or Time Trashing? What does UK's PAS Say?' Friday, 3 February 2023. PAS, of course, did not.

 

Hat tip Hougenai

7 comments:

Carr said...
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Paul Barford said...

That was a 'please', then was it? Oh you English, such gentlemen. If you don't want your seven year old relation photographed metal detecting, my suggestion would not be to take him metal detecting when there's a NW Mail photographer around, whereby that image could easily get into the public domain by them publishing it together with the axes that are the subject of the photo, the use of which to illustrate a critical article about the discovery is entirely within the bounds of fair use. Anyway, I've fixed it within your 24 hours. No kids or nephews visible. You only had to ask nicely.

I rather think it is not me who has the problem, Mr Carr.

Paul Barford said...

Just for reference, what Mr Carr said (then later thought the better of, nothing gets lost in the Internet):

Carr has left a new comment on your post 'Placing it on the Map: More Metal Detecting Excitement in Millom, UK':

What's your problem I suggest you take the photo down of me my brother and nephew if not I will take this further! your so childish saying about me and my beard why don't you grow grow up got nothing better to do than slate us off

Posted by Carr to Portable Antiquity Collecting and Heritage Issues at 25 Apr 2023, 01:37

Carr has left a new comment on your post 'Placing it on the Map: More Metal Detecting Excitement in Millom, UK':

Take he picture of my nephew down or I will be taking this further and believe me I will!!! My nephew is 7 I did not give you permission to post it on your website so you have 24 hours to take it down from now 12.51 if you don't I will take this further

Posted by Carr to Portable Antiquity Collecting and Heritage Issues at 25 Apr 2023, 03:51


Carr said...

You got nothing better to do with your life pal? Say what you want about me I don't give a f**k but you are in the wrong for putting that picture up with out permission It's against the law end off! you know you were in the wrong because you did what I said like a good little boy ;)

Hougenai said...

Clearly Mr Carr is as aware of the legislation relating to images already in the public domain as the MD Code of Practice relating to detecting pasture.

'If an image is in the public domain, anyone can use the given work without permission or paying a fee and in any way they want, including making any modifications, creating derivative works, or using it for commercial purposes and making profit.'

Paul Barford said...

"Carr has left a new comment on your post 'Placing it on the Map: More Metal Detecting Excitement in Millom, UK': You got nothing better to do with your life pal? Say what you want about me I don't give a f**k but you are in the wrong for putting that picture up with out permission It's against the law end off! you know you were in the wrong because you did what I said like a good little boy ;)"



From the above, spelling was apparently not one of Mr Carr's stronger points at school I suspect. Actually knowing journalism law and fair use I would certainly expect to be beyond someone like that.

"[I] did what [he] said like a good little boy" because I think that in the eyes of my non-detecting readers, it makes another UK metal detectorist look a right twit ;)

 
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