Saturday 30 March 2024

Raubgrabung on the Eastern Front on Video


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Metal Detecting WWII Battlegrounds 573K subscribers
My name is Chris, I’m 29 years old and I have a passion for WW2 history. The silent WW2 reminders in and around my home in Europe nourished my passion for WW2 history while growing up. In 2010, I decided to pick up a metal detector and set out on a journey to recover lost artifacts and their untold stories, that I could share with the world. Follow me during these educational metal detecting documentaries where we share these WW2 stories! I’ve been a Youtuber for about 13 years now. By now I have exceeded the staggering number of 500.000 subscribers
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US Army just gave up this place to the Soviets! 5,192 views Premiered 11 hours ago
In a special patch of woods near a bridgehead we discover WW2 relics from three different armies. First the Americans captured this place and defeated the Wehrmacht. Eventually they gave it up to the Soviets. History is all mixed up in this area!
I'm guessing from the manner of speech that this guy is Dutch. Note how they avoid showing their faces, or vehicle numberplates or say exactly where they are. The effect is a bit comical, as whenever the lady in the team comes on, avoiding showing her face involves the cameraman focussing on her bust or butt. Note how many times squeaky-voice-tekkie draws attention to the fact that they've "filled their holes" - even though this is done extremely perfuctorally.


They seem a bit confused about what they are digging, they are desperate to show that it is a "Wehmacht" camp or "barracks", while it looks from where the finds are and what they are that most of the digging is in and around a RAD latrine trench. Idiots. The area where the first US advances would contact Red Army troops would be northern Saxony - where there are laws about such things. An aluminium hool is found with the markings of  RAD Arbeitsgau XV which was indeed Sachsen.




Look at the devastation, they dug a socking big hole in the forest floor, eviscerated an achaeological feature, then when the'd filled their pockets, dumped a whole lot of extraneous material in it (can't even be bothered to put back all of what they took out) and generally left an almighty mess. No idea here of nature conservation ("take only photos, leave only footprints"). I could not leave such irresponsible artefact hunting unchallenged, here's my comment:

Comment by Portantmatters (30.03.2024) :  But of course this "special patch of woods" is an archaeological site containing fresh information about the unwritten past isn't it? Is that why you are not showing your faces while you dig holes into it and take away artefacts? What kind of documentation are you doing of the findspots (GPS location, photographic recording?). This site is not ploughland, the relatively undisturbed archaeological deposits are just below the leaf-litter, so why are you destroying it to get collectables out? What do you do with them, and what happensd to the artefacts you remove from their context but do not want to collect, are they documented too? Is this "responsible matal detecting" worthy of emulation in your eyes? If not, why are you making videos of you doing it and putting them online? Are you tourist diggers, or actually citizens of the country whose buried past you are trashing like this? Just asking.

Lets see what their response is.



6 comments:

De. William Shephard said...

This comment is pathetic, how ridiculous can it get? Here we have Portantmatters, claiming ownership of a site he never even knew existed and furthermore not showing his face either!!! Dear oh dear, if he, [or she] is so interested in the artifacts uncovered, why does he, [or she] not join the detectorists, armed with his [or her] archaelogical tools??? I am sure they would be more than welcome.

De. William Shephard said...

No comments???

Paul Barford said...

"pathetic" and "ridiculous"? In what way am I "claiming ownership" of a site this video shows being irresponsibly trashed? It may be that many metal detectorists, like the reality-challenged trolling cock-puppet Shephard, see nothing at all irresponsible here, it does not mean that those who do are wrong.

Shephard has no idea what this post is about he thinks it's about "the artifacts (sic) uncovered" when I quite clearly am writing about the trashing (and misiterp4retation) of parts of a site. I would no more think of "joining the detectorists", "armed with my archaelogical tools" than I would joining a dog-baiting fight. This is immoral, and Shephard may see fit to try and defend these looters, I think they have some questions to face about that video.

Paul Barford said...

sock

De. William Shephard said...

Get out there yourself you sinecure-ensconced blogging prick and uncover the remains first hand!!!

Paul Barford said...

1) I do not work in Saxony,
2) I do not have the landowner's permission,
3) I do not write good enough German to do the field documentation adequately,
4) I do not specialise in WW2 archaeology or have the required knowledge to deal with these finds or have contacts with anyone who does,
5) I am not convinced that this site needs to be excavated at all, the only threat at the moment seems to be looters like these guys.
6) I do not know whether there is somebody that would accept the excavation archive. What would they do with it?
7) I do not have time at the moment due to other professional committments to take on a fieldwork project in a foreign country of any size.
8) I tend to select the work I choose to engage in on the basis of what interests mew at a given time and fits into my own objectives, rather than what some entitled foreign metal detectorist from a little island off the coast of Europe tells me to do. Thanks, but no.


 
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