Saturday, 31 October 2020
UK's Lockdown Flounderings and Artefact Hunting
In the UK, museums and galleries must close under the new Covid-19 lockdown regulations (Gov.ukm: New National Restrictions from 5 November). Some FLOs had returned to work in their host institutions, most it seems had not. Now many will be returning home after 5th November, this time maybe they will all take boxes of unrecorded finds to keep them busy, because actually using this lull to get some outreach materials created and using social media to promote a broader understanding of best practice seems to be beyond most of them. Anyway, there are some private initiatives - maybe if they can't produce their own, they can use that...
But it seems that even treating artefact hunting as "outdoor exercise" (which is what the grabby site trashers do in the UK) may not be enough to allow them to get out and pilfer the past for the next few weeks, at least not in groups. The PAS and NCMD have yet to issue detailed guidelines. The European Council for Metal Detecting never got around to producing any at all.
Ashmolean Museum Spreading Mental Fluff, Failing to Address the Main Question
Another British Museum is acting as a gatekeeper, but merely using objects in its stores for facile and demeaning guessing games:
Ashmolean Museum@AshmoleanMuseum It's MYSTERY OBJECT TIME! [emoticon] What do you think this could be? Wrong answers encouraged.
Oh how utterly droll, eh? Note that they do not give any indication of dimensions (no scale in photo) or material. This was followed by people making fatuous remarks, each of which the Ashmolean staff answered individually - having obviously a lot of free time at the moment. That is, apart from one:
Paul Barford@PortantIssues·11 g. W odpowiedzi do @AshmoleanMuseumIt seems to me with all the public debate (in the UK too) about repatriation of unethically-appropriated cultural property, there were more profitable lines of discussion with members of the British public that one could have used this object to initiate than making silly suggestions.* Note that only one of these comments included the idea that the museum in a far-off land should not be hanging on to something like this (probably looted from a grave) in order that their nationals can entertain themselves by making fun of it. Dumbdown culture at its very worst. And what valuable mind-expanding information did the museum impart at the end"
Jade ear ornament that you date no closer than 7 centuries, date of context lost on market. Bought (from whom?) in 1996, no provenance or collecting history on Museum website, no mention of documentation of legal export. Why are you doing this? Why is this in a UK museum at all? [followed by link 'Viet Nam News: Return looted artworks to the Vietnamese people']
Ashmolean Museum@AshmoleanMuseum·30 paźW odpowiedzi do @AshmoleanMuseum
We had so many guesses that this was a coat hanger that we started to second guess ourselves. It is not, in fact, a coat hanger, but an ear ornament! Otherwise known as 'lingling-o', these were often made from jade or nephrite and might have indicated the wearer's social status.
This of course is why we get people voting for Brexit. Reassuringly equally-inane comment, followed by Inane ("we are with you") comment sketchy label (followed by an exclamation mark) then three sketchy "facts", omitting to say which country/culture produced it, where and when. Most importantly how it got out of the country of origin and why, how it entered the UK and how it ended up in their stupid guessing game. Totally meaningless fluff.
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Thursday, 29 October 2020
Those numbers of metal detectorists... STOP Fudging the Question
Fudge is no answer |
Wednesday, 28 October 2020
Let's Go Digging Insurance
Metal detectors and farmers |
Some comments were made here on whether fly-by-night visits through pay-to-dig companies qualified for insurance cover. Paul "White Lives Matter" Howard, the organiser of the Let's Go Digging events has announced:
Piece [sic] of mind everyone who attends Lets Go Digging events is insured up to £10’000’000 public liability insurance while on our farmsThey can't provide toilets but have the money to pay premiums on insurance like that... Does this insurance cover the farmer from loss if a metal detectorist were to steal something from the property? (as if, eh?).
California Museum Dragging Feet over Thai Artefacts Acquired without Paperwork in 1960s
Khao Lon lintel |
The lawsuit says the items illegally made their way to a private collector in the United States and were donated to the city- and county-owned collection of the Asian Art Museum [...]. The museum said one lintel is from Nong Hong Temple and dates to 1000-1080 AD. The other is from Khao Lon Temple and dates to 975-1025 AD. The museum says one item was bought by noted collector Avery Brundage and the other by the museum, with Brundage as a go-between, in the 1960s from sellers in London and Paris.
Nong Hon lintel |
"The lawsuit is surprising because the museum had been negotiating with both the Department of Homeland Security and Thai officials since 2017, said Robert Mintz, the museum’s deputy director. The lengthy process of permanently removing the items from the museum’s collection had been expected to be completed this spring but now ”the lintels won’t go anywhere until the legal process is complete,” he said. “We’re surprised by this filing and we’re disappointed that it seems to throw up a roadblock to what seemed like positive and developing negotiations.” he added.If somebody's stolen car was found in their car park in 2016 and they were told that getting the paperwork together for them to give it back was going to take the museum "a lengthy period", I suggest that a court case would be in order four years later. This case was noted here in an older post, odd to see it is still dragging on: Thailand is seeking the return of Illicit items from museums in the United States, PACHI Saturday, 4 August 2018.
Antiquity is in the Eye of the Beholder
"Powerful?" |
Bronze Age Limestone Votive Sculpture SKU PF.0167 Circa 2500 BC to 1500 BC Dimensions 8″ (20.3cm) high x 6″ (15.2cm) wide, Medium: Limestone, Origin: Northern Syria, Gallery Location USA
With his arms clasped reverently to his chest, this powerful figure stands in awe before some god the world has now forgotten. He evokes a distant age, a time when man felt more helpless before the forces of the cosmos. Even after all these centuries, his quiet dignity in the face of the unknown has the power to move us.
Barakat (fair use for purposes of criticism and comment) |
Barakat (fair use for purposes of criticism and comment) |
Barakat (fair use for purposes of criticism and comment) |
All my own work, based on subjective interpretation derived from what one can glean from description by Barakat (fair use for purposes of criticism and comment). |
Monday, 26 October 2020
Gutted Wen Fings Aint Wot They Sim- Honest
Paul Howard Admin 1 h
1 x Gold Roman now from our Moreton-in-Marsh permission, Always hammered and Roman to be found, we’ve done a few visits now but it just keeps giving and yesterday we had a go on a new 50 acre area and had a silver Roman and hammered and gold half sovrin, We will be doing the new 50 acre again but we now also have the 100 acre site we’ve done a few times and had the 1st gold Roman been ploughed and is ready for us to book so keep eye on events I’m going to get us back their in next few weeks, also has lots hard standing parking
Lee DjIlla B Booth: Nice Paul , it’s not everyday you see gold Roman coming out the ground hope you well fella
Lorraine Maud Awesome
Gary Molloy Congratulations to the finder,awesome
Paul Howard Gutted just seen a live video of the what looked like a gold roman but it turns out it’s a lead farm token that in Kevin’s pics looked gold but def isn’t
According to finder, a farm token not worth reporting to the landowner. |
I can't help wondering why a "farm token" would be made to look just like a slightly worn aureus of Tiberius - like the ones that the finder could locate on a dealer's website like here (prices up to 16000$). Rauch (sale 108) had three for about 3-4000 euros and there are several sellers listed in CoinArchives (Leu et al.) that have them at a hefty price ticket too, even for ones in quite grotty condition like the LGD one. This is why I think a "lead farm token that is def not a valuble Romin coin" is especially interesting, I wonder what the landowner thought of it when the finder showed him and asked if he could take it? Maybe when the FLO has recorded it, he could interview the landowner and it would make a very interesting post for the PAS blog, about public attitudes to the past, the metal detectorists out there for the "love of history (and not the money)", the landowner that wants to share the history of his land with the public.
Sunday, 25 October 2020
If Only People Would Look into Artefact Hunting and Collecting Like This
The ability to identify misinformation is a crucial skill these days. This should be being taught in every school. Fighting fake news is the same whether its Covid or the nonsenses of the PAS and Helsinki Gang about "metal detectorists":
More British Looting: Engaging in and Excreting on the PASt in Moreton this Weekend. [Updated]
Pay to Dig Looters like animals |
Heritage Action, 'Right now another innocent community is being put at risk by a pay-to-dig metal detecting rally', Heritage Journal 25/10/2020. Moreton In Marsh is a particularly beautiful historical Cotswold town. So that means its a target for the pay-to-dig brigade that have signed a contract with a local landowner that means that
people from goodness knows where (but including those from High-Risk Zone 2 places) [will be] descending on their town and using their facilities. It’s the second such stunt in Gloucestershire in a week. The locals will be pondering how come their innocent agricultural show had to be cancelled whereas a grubby, acquisitive metal detecting rally is allowed. And no, the incomers won’t be keeping out of their town, for the organisers, Let’s Go Digging, have told attendees: “No catering or toilets but very close to the town of Moreton” No toilets! Imagine! There’s a pandemic on yet Britain is the ONLY place in the world where the health of locals is being put at risk like this. And for why? “Anything you find under £3,000 is yours without having to split with farmers“ (which speaks loudly of the motivation of the attendees and their propensity to report all they find to the farmer and PAS).
This is disgusting on all accounts. Ripping out collectables, and leaving behind poo-strewn fields because the organisers can't organise proper sanitation in Britain is what "gets detecting a bad name". British archaeologists if they had the balls would be doing something about their "partners" getting involved in damaging commercial activity like is to protect sites, but we all know they could not give a proverbial poo-bag in a tree.
Let's recall that the LGD Facebook page shows the group has over 13.4 thousand followers, half the metal detecting "partners" in the country.
UPDATE 25th October 2020
I've just been contacted by an emotional detectorist who'd paid up to attend but suffers from incontinence, but when he was preparing to set off today, wanted to find out where precisely in Moreton the public toilets open on Sunday were. Google Earth however told him that the organisers were pulling a fast one. There are none. The nearest are about 10 km away. Is that in the organisers' risk assessment?
Google Earth Sunday October 25th 2020. The yellow line is 10 km long. He should get his money back from the pay-to-dig charlatans.
Presumably, one of the 'benefits' of the island leaving the EU is that rules about grazing animals on land that is contaminated with human faeces will have been lifted. But this allows the spread of parasites. That kind of hygienic laxity will not help the UK reach a trade deal with anyone if the meat supplied by Gloucestershire farmers is found to be riddled with disease.
Saturday, 24 October 2020
UK to return 5,000 ancient artifacts to Iraq'
Al-Monitor, 'UK to return 5,000 ancient artifacts to Iraq' Oct 23, 2020
The British government will return nearly 5,000 stolen artifacts to Iraq, the office of Prime Minister Mustafa al-Kadhimi said Friday. Kadhimi, who was appointed premier in May, arrived in the United Kingdom earlier this week for an official state visit. During a tour of the British Museum in London, the Iraqi leader was briefed on the UK's pledge to return clay tablets and other artifacts to Iran. They are expected to be delivered next year, in what Kadhimi's office said is Iraq’s largest-yet repatriation of looted artifacts. Included in the repatriation 4,000-year-old Sumerian relic that museum experts discovered for sale by an online auctioneer in May 2019. The limestone sculpture is believed to have been taken from a temple in Iraq that was heavily looted during the Gulf War and again in 2003.
OK, we know about the relief that an Essex auction house was trying to flog off. Where are the other 4999 seized artefacts from, what are they and who was selling them? And how many arrests have been made in the UK as a result of the in-depth investigations of this crime? Somehow that seems to be missing from this text. How deeply involved are British dealers in the trade of conflict antiquities from this and other Middle Easter countries, and why are we not being told anything at all about this? Repatriation of loose smuggled artefacts should be the end of the process, not its aim.
More British Looting: Essex Metal Detectorist Caught in Flagrante
More British Looting. Artefact Hunting on Scheduled Site in Kent
If the police are to protect this heritage, what changes would have to be made in the regulation of the collecting of and trade in archaeological objects to make that possible given the existing resources? Surely instead of just shrugging shoulders as more and more culture criminals get away with it, all those that (really) care about the past and its archaeological study should be able to find ways to reduce the chances that they can.
King Ring Found by Metal Detectorist
Hawking in Angmering? |
LOT 0553 King James I's Personal Hawking Ring. Estimate GBP (£) 4,000 - 6,000 1603-1625 ADThere is an interesting change in appearance in the ring (and look at the inscription) between the PAS photo and now. So if this was vetted by the PAS as being found by the nameless detectorist, at a particular place and a particular time, WHY is Timeline asking the Interpol Database? I really do not see the logic in this action. Unless of course Timeline are saying "never trust a metal detectorist" - maybe (like me) they have some experience with this?
A silver vervel or hawking ring used during falconry, comprising a flat-section hoop with legend in italic script 'Kyng James', and a waisted heater shield with quartered arms of the Stuart kings; the arms displayed are the royal arms used by the Stuarts (outside of Scotland) from the accession of James I to the British throne in 1603. 0.84 grams, 10.36mm (1/2"). Fine condition; edge of shield bent. An excessively rare ring, the personal possession of an important British monarch.
Provenance
Found while searching with a metal detector near Angmering, West Sussex, UK, on 8 November 2016; declared under the treasure act under reference number 2017 T10, subsequently valued at £4,000-£4,500, but disclaimed as no museum was in a position to acquire it; accompanied by a copy of the treasure report for H M Coroner, the official provisional valuation, letters from the British Museum, and a copy of the Portable Antiquities report number SUSS-D17951; this lot has been checked against the Interpol Database of stolen works of art and is accompanied by AIAD certificate number no.10233-167384.
Footnotes
[ a load of narrativising waffle about kings and falcons - wikipedia stuff...]
Historic England: "Not so Many, and What Can we Do?"
There was an online heritage seminar and it was suggested I might like to register to watch Mark Harrison, Head of Heritage Crime Strategy, Historic England. I said I was not going to because... blood pressure. But I submitted a question through a HA member
I think we should ask the head of Heritage Crime Strategy about police estimates of the discovery rate of illegal metal detecting given that latest estimates are that there are 27000 active detectorists and they now frequently report they cannot get permission from any of the farmers they approach, what sort of police resources would there have to be to deal with the scale of effect?HA reported "the presentation was pretty well as much as you'd predict/expect" and "one of my questions was chosen for discussion. Sadly, not Paul's one!" Surprise there, eh? Inevitably, even this "was turned around to state that only a 'small minority' of detectorists are nighthawks/thieves".
A small minority, eh? On what evidence? Let it be said that just 4%* of 27000 is 1080 detectorists who could potentially be going out even once a week... We are talking about the possibility that several thousand sites are being damaged each year, even if such a number only targets just three sites each (the number a group of men arrested in the UK a few months ago were reputed to have 'done' - no word to date of any charges brought).
It seems to me that the "strategy" is to wring hands that there are not the resources to place brightly coloured police cars with flashing lights and coppers camouflaged in hi-vis clothing on country roads to catch nighthawks in flagrente. That's a good way of not having to actually create a strategy.
Friday, 23 October 2020
Stolen Banksy on 'Antiques Roadshow'
The PAS should be explaining this |
A shameless British man [...] went on Antiques Roadshow recently and tried to get a Banksy piece appraised — after admitting he ripped it off a wall. The unidentified man explained that he spotted the small work of street art — of a rat holding a power drill — near the Brighton seafront in 2004 and decided to make it his. “It looked loose, I went over — pulled it off, basically,” he admitted, laughing about how it took “a little bit of a tug” to pry the piece off the wall. Art expert Rupert Maas had bad news for the man, however. While an authenticated Banksy of that size would’ve fetched at least $25,000, a stolen Banksy is worthless, since the artist refuses to authenticate it — as he always does when people take his art from the public spaces where they were installed. “He calls it pest control,” Maas told the would-be Banksy owner. “I think the message here is, if you do see a piece of graffiti art out there, leave it — leave it for the public,” the art expert added.British metal detectorists take note. We need a lot more pest control of people that take for themselves what should belong to us all, that is the knowledge that is trashed when oiks like this dig holes in sites and assemblages and pocket what they fancy.
Tuesday, 20 October 2020
Unexplained Attack on Artworks and Antiquities in Berlin's Museums [UPDATED]
One or more unknown perpetrators had sprayed at least 70 objects in the Pergamon Museum, the New Museum, the Old National Gallery and other locations with an oily liquid that left visible stains. The objects attacked included Egyptian sarcophagi, stone sculptures and paintings from the 19th century. Nothing is known about the motives behind the attack so far and no organisation has yet claimed responsibility.
Die Zeit and the Guardian have linked the museum island attack to conspiracy theories pushed through social media channels by prominent coronavirus deniers in recent months that have claimed that the Pergamon Museum, which at that time was still closed due to corona, was the "Throne of Satan" and that it was the centre of the "global Satanist scene and corona criminals", announcing "here they make their human sacrifices at night and violate children!"
One such theory claims that the Pergamon Museum is the centre of the “global satanism scene” because it holds a reconstruction of the ancient Greek Pergamon Altar. Attila Hildmann, a former vegan celebrity chef who has become one of Germany’s best-known proponents of the baseless QAnon conspiracy theory, posted messages on Telegram in August and September in which he suggested that the German chancellor, Angela Merkel, was using the altar for “human sacrifices”. On Tuesday night Hildmann, who has over 100,000 followers on his public Telegram channel, posted a link to the Deutschlandfunk article with the words: “Fact! It is the throne of Baal (Satan).”
The Guardian links this to another recent event:
In 2018 two women were arrested in the Greek capital, Athens, after smearing museum exhibits at the National Museum of History with an oily substance. The two women, later identified as being of Bulgarian origin, told police they were spraying the artworks with oil and myrrh “because the Holy Scripture says it is miraculous”.
There are few details, a brief account here and here. It would be interesting to see a spectrograph of the oils extracted from both attacks.
Update 23rd Oct 2020
Photos have been published showing the damage to the antiquities, which does look like some kind of "annointing", but no information has been supplied about which paintings were attacked and whether there was a common theme.
In a statement shared yesterday, German culture minister Monika Grütters asked for a comprehensive report on the attacks [...] including an assessment of how similar events can be prevented in the future. At a conference on museum security[last autumn], Grütters said that museums were insufficiently prepared for possible crimes. But as commentators writing for the German national daily Die Zeit pointed out, museums and the country’s government are unlikely to be “comfortable” providing information about their own security in the wake of demands for restitution of artworks taken during the colonial era, “which are still being answered with the argument of alleged security problems in African countries.”
From a UK Metal Detectorist's Facebook Page
Gaia Getting Angry about Looting?
Anselm Feuerbach, Gaia |
Indeed, the landowner has the right to decide who comes onto their property and when. "Our famer" indeed!Wilsford Rally Cancelled:This event has just been cancelled by our farmer due to heavy rain yesterday and overnight, We thought it might dry up a bit but fields are very wet and the field we was (sic) parking in just won’t take the volume of cars in and out without vehicles getting stuck unfortunately so we have no option on this one. It to cancel to be re arranged for another date, apologies in advance but it’s again out of our hands .
Polish Metal Detectorist Arrested as Result of Tip-off from Concerned Member of Public
Polish police protects heritage from damage by metal detectorists |
Recently in Poland, authorities have recovered hundreds of stolen historical artifacts in a targeted police operation [...], the cache of illegal historical artifacts was found in Andrychów, in the south of Poland [...] A local man had been on the police’s “radar for some time,” reports The First News. It seems that a tipoff led them to search the suspect's property. Officers “received information that one of the inhabitants of Andrychów may be in possession of prohibited objects,” reports Wadowice Online. This led to officers from the regional police headquarters, based in Kraków, and local police to raid the home of a 40-year-old man. [...] What the authorities found was a treasure trove of stolen historical artifacts. Hundreds of items were found in cardboard boxes all over the property. [...] The owner of the illegal historical artifacts was arrested, and a file is being prepared in the local prosecutors’ office in relation to the case. The police believe that the objects were excavated illegally, and this is contrary to the Protection of Monuments and the Care of Monuments laws in Poland. [...] It seems that most of the artifacts were obtained by “illegal searches using a metal detector around Poland, without the necessary permission,” reports The First News.
Monday, 19 October 2020
A Reminder, "Metal Detecting" is About Digging BLIND Into Archaeology
Archaeologists and Detectorists, the Same?
Left, what detectorists find, right: what archaeologists are looking for |
[...] At the end of the day the two were about to give up, but on the way back to the car, one last signal kept them on the site until dusk fell...[...] Because of the spikey brush, Kostas and his 11-year old son had difficulty digging down to locate the source of the signal, the ground was very rocky, so they had to dig a few hours to find the gold pieces that were mixed up with rocks, charcoal and pottery fragments. When they reported the find the archaeologists at the museum were baffled about what they were...:The alternative headline: Iota Sykka ' Archaeologists strike gold on Crete' Ekathimerini 19.10.2020 :
Everything indicates that an early sanctuary operated there, which the later inhabitants respected and did not strip of its gold. They built a stone altar on top, where the 200 ceramic items were found. As the excavator explains, in the room where they located the xoanon, animal and human figurines were discovered, like those usually found at the most important sanctuaries.
"Sovereign Rally" Cancelled
The health benefits of outdoor exercise |
That makes two rallies banned recently (Pink Wellies and Sovereign) and one shut down by police halfway through (Let’s Go Digging) but one allowed to go ahead and more than one rally per week scheduled for the rest of the year by Let’s Go Digging (consider the takings, health implications and possible unreported heritage that implies). Is it too much to hope that the archaeological bodies should get round a table with the police and DCMS and sort this out before next week? (Lest PAS are frit to offend detectorists we suggest they ask around and check the detecting forums for once. All detectorists other than the attendees appear to despise the existence of pay-to-dig rallies, so why the blue blazes are they still allowed to happen?)We need regulation of the despicable and irresponsible commercialisation of collection-driven exploitation of the achaeological record by metal detectorists, and the time to do that is through emergancy legislation during this pandemic.
Sunday, 18 October 2020
UK's Shambolic Commercial Cash-in-Hand "Metal Detecting Rallyz"
Charles Lloyd in a fetching anorak |
Members agree to abide by these rules:
1 Green Waste. A problem.It looks like they've had complaints from members for the amount of contaminated green waste on the fields. Also it looks like they've had problems with the landowner seeing on the Group's page (or he would if it were not hidden) how many people will attend and demanding payment accordingly, but some participants did not turn up with the cash in hand payment in an unmarked envelope so the landowner did not get as much as they expected. I wonder why they don't just get people paying online before, everything easy and transparent, like? "Being part of this group requires mutual trust", what does that mean, and why the secrecy? What goes on on this closed antiquities hunters Facebook page? This is like all those looting pages on Facebook that the Antiquities Trafficking and Heritage Anthropology Research (ATHAR) Project are investigating. Perhaps somebody needs to investigate the secret underworld of British pay-to-loot organisations too. Like the taxman. Are the farmers declaring the income from the selling off of antiquities to these people? What about the money raised by participants by selling off the material found and removed, either now or at a later date? How is the cash paid to landowners and how (and where) are the business accounts kept by Sovereign Metal Detecting Rallys, where are the invoices? WHY are British archaeologists not investigating this already?
Please know measures are taken to reduce this risk. It can happen in spite of this. Please understand it is not deliberate and the risk we take. Please know measures are taken to reduce this risk. It can happen in spite of this. Please understand it is not deliberate and the risk we take. Dig the rubbish and there’s still rewards :)
2 Attending Events.
Please advise if not attending at earliest opportunity. Allowances can be made for emergencies. But failure to attend can result in a double charge for next attending event.
3 Maybe’s ... please do not click this option.
Maybe is not an automatic reserve. We kindly ask that you either click going or not going in order to arrange numbers efficiently. Thankyou.
4 Advertising and selling.
Please do not advertise or sell on the group page unless prior request of permission from Charles Lloyd. Posts will be removed without this courtesy.
5 Be kind and courteous
We're all in this together to create a welcoming environment. Let's treat everyone with respect. Healthy debates are natural, but kindness is required.
6 Respect everyone's privacy
Being part of this group requires mutual trust. Authentic, expressive discussions make groups great, but may also be sensitive and private. What's shared in the group should stay in the group.
7 Insurance.
This is compulsory to attend all events.
8 Filling holes.
Please dig neat holes and fill accordingly. Failure to do so will result in being removed from the event and blocked from the group.
9 Refunds.
Time and effort is put into all areas to avoid green waste but can happen in spite of this. Just as much as ‘good finds’ are not assured. Refunds do not apply as genuine attempts are made to avoid.
Note that the Group Rules make no explicit mention of
- Following any health and safety guidelines or regulations,No mention of making available any health situation risk assessments to members before they travel. Although contaminated land figures prominently in the Group Rules, there is no mention of the liability of Sovereign Metal Detecting Rallys taking money from people to place them on such contaminated land to carry out the activity they paid for ('time and effort to avoid...trust us', is not enough, and NCMD insurance does not cover this). So basically, to judge from what can be seen on their public profile, this group with already 1400 members seems to be a total shambles and unprofessional amateurishness.
- Adherence to the Code of Best Practice for Responsible Metal Detecting in England and Wales,
- Adherence to the requirements of national laws (such as the Treasure Act), if you don't fill your holes in nicely, you'll get chucked off the dig, pocket a Bronze Age gold bracelet and ... nothing, but "what happens in teh group stays in the group"
There is no mention here of any upper limit to the value of finds you can walk off with without checking with the landowner fiirst, let alone any requirement to show all and anything to the landowner when you leave their property to get documentation of title.
TAKE A GOOD LOOK at this behaviour, for these are precisely the sort of people the PAS wants to grab more and more millions of public quid to make into the "partners" of the British Museum, archaeological heritage professionals and to whom they want us all to entrust the exploitation of the archaeological record. Take a good look and decide what you think about that as a "policy".
UK Tekkies Blame Illegal Artefact Hunting on the CV-Lockdown
Artefact hunting on pasture |
Am I imaging it or has there been an upsurge in the hobby? by coinhunter2018 (Sun Oct 18, 2020 2:52 pm)
I'm on several other groups besides this forum, social media etc. In the past six months since the virus got loose, there seems to be an upsurge in the number of people new to the hobby. Is it because the virus has limited other hobbies and other activities such as travel abroad? Just seems to be the case from my perspective, some guys at work are interested too, in fact one of them bought a machine two weeks since and he can hardly walk! Baffled me that one.It seems he's not alone: Phil2401 (Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:02 pm)
Interesting question that - I've also noticed a significant recent upsurge in 'Hi I'm a newbie' posts on this forum alone and also 'thanks for adding me' on various club / pay-to-dig sites... possible COVID effect, possible increase in publicity of hoard finds and wide-eyed potential treasure hunters thinking they'll be the next, a general growth in the industry of manufacturing / advertising metal detectors.... will be interesting to see others' views.Or 'pay-to-dig' looting. So, who has been doing all this publicity of hoard finds, if not the PAS? Mikeb (Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:08 pm)
I think the hobby has been growing significantly since well before lockdown, over the last two years or so. I never use to see others detecting in fields, or very rarely, and you do now. Just look at the number of newbies saying hello on here. And this is no bad thing apart from over demand for limited permissions.Too bad though that the number of finds being recorded was not increasing in the same two year period before lockdown, and now in lockdown, it is a trickle - just as these forum members are reporting a rise of new people going out, and needing outreach. MDF Forum member Dave The Slave (Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:10 pm) also think it is PAS publicity that's leading to this:
Think some of it is down to publicity of the Big finds. People thinking it is the norm and a get rich quick scheme [...] The pandemic has highlighted the above, more time on hands due to furlough perhaps or job loss, something to do with a possibility of a few poundsSo, it's just crude Treasure Hunting, or maybe we can call it subsistence looting like some do in the Third World? The UK now has third world economic looters egged on by false folk tales of hidden wealth? Muddyknee (Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:19 pm) is sceptical about their get-rich-quick hopes:
I wonder how many will be around once they realise they need land.Phil2401 (Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:24 pm) is pragmatic, his observations lead him to suggest that if artefact hunters eager to get their hands on the loot cant get land legally:
They turn into hawks.....coinhunter2018 (Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:30 pm) reiterates
I think the last six months has seen a definite increase. Not just on here but on the social media groups too, however I've also seen a few offloading their detectors on those groups after three months. Whether they are buying another detector or selling up is anyone's guess [...]
So if in 2017, Sam Hardy calculate 27000 site trashing artefact pocketers and 3 full years later observers on the ground are suggesting the numbers are still going up, how many are there now?