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So, the metal detectorists get their wish. No permits, just compulsory registering of every search they do and everything they find on a mobile application. Look who is supporting it, the Right (PiS and Konfederacja, Kukiz, Polskie Sprawy). The opposition is firmly against it.
Hmm.
That'll please the Helsinki Gang. Now we can watch an experiment to see if they were right that liberalising artefact hunting as a free-for-all would be a "good thing". It's just a shame that it is carried out on the Polish archaeological record.
WHO VOTED FOR THIS DAMAGING LEGISLATION? I'm going to name and shame them.
Głosowanie nr 37 dnia 17-08-2023
Posłowie PiS głosujący "Za":
There are 227 parliamentarians of this Party in the Sejm 225 turned up to vote. All voted ‘for’ passing this legislation into law. 1. Adamczyk Andrzej 2. Andruszkiewicz Adam 3. Andzel Waldemar 4. Ardanowski Jan Krzysztof 5. Arent Iwona 6. Ast Marek 7. Babalski Zbigniew 8. Babinetz Piotr 9. Bartosik Ryszard 10. Bartuś Barbara 11. Baszko Mieczysław 12. Bąk Dariusz 13. Błaszczak Mariusz 14. Bochenek Rafał 15. Borowiak Joanna 16. Bortniczuk Kamil 17. Borys-Szopa Bożena 18. Buda Waldemar 19. Burzyńska Lidia 20. Chmielowiec Zbigniew 21. Choma Kazimierz 22. Chorosińska Dominika 23. Chrzan Tadeusz 24. Cicholska Anna Ewa 25. Cieślak Michał 26. Czarnecki Krzysztof 27. Czarnecki Przemysław 28. Czarnecki Witold 29. Czarnek Przemysław (Minister of Education and Science!) 30. Czartoryski Arkadiusz 31. Czerwińska Anita 32. Czochara Katarzyna 33. Dąbrowska-Banaszek Anna 34. Dobrzyński Leszek 35. Dolata Zbigniew 36. Dorywalski Bartłomiej 37. Drabek Przemysław 38. Duda Elżbieta 39. Duda Jan 40. Duszek Marcin 41. Dworczyk Michał 42. Dziedziczak Jan 43. Dziuk Barbara 44. Emilewicz Jadwiga 45. Filipiak Ewa 46. Fogiel Radosław 47. Galemba Leszek 48. Gawęda Adam 49. Gawron Andrzej 50. Gaża Grzegorz 51. Gembicka Anna 52. Giżyński Szymon 53. Glenc Teresa 54. Gliński Piotr (Minister of Cultureand National Heritage!) 55. Głuchowski Krzysztof 56. Golińska Małgorzata 57. Gołojuch Kazimierz 58. Gonciarz Jarosław 59. Gontarz Robert 60. Gosek Mariusz 61. Gosiewska Małgorzata 62. Górska Agnieszka 63. Górski Maciej 64. Gróbarczyk Marek 65. Gut-Mostowy Andrzej 66. Gwiazdowski Kazimierz 67. Gwóźdź Marcin 68. Hałas Teresa 69. Hoc Czesław 70. Hoffmann Zbigniew Grzegorz 71. Horała Marcin 72. Hreniak Paweł 73. Jach Michał 74. Janowska Małgorzata 75. Kaczmarczyk Norbert 76. Kaczyński Filip 77. Kaczyński Jarosław (THAT Jarosław Kaczyński what does he know about metal detecting?) 78. Kaleta Piotr 79. Kaleta Sebastian 80. Kałużny Mariusz 81. Kamiński Mariusz 82. Kanthak Jan 83. Kapinos Fryderyk 84. Kołakowski Lech 85. Kossakowski Wojciech 86. Kosztowniak Andrzej 87. Kowalczyk Henryk 88. Kowalczyk Leszek 89. Kowalski Janusz 90. Kownacki Bartosz 91. Kozanecka Ewa 92. Kozik Krzysztof Janusz 93. Krajewski Jarosław 94. Krajewski Wiesław 95. Krasulski Leonard 96. Król Piotr 97. Krupka Anna 98. Kryj Andrzej 99. Kubiak Marta 100. Kubów Krzysztof 101. Kuchciński Marek 102. Kurowska Iwona 103. Kurowska Maria 104. Kurowski Władysław 105. Kurzępa Jacek 106. Kwiecień Anna 107. Kwitek Marek 108. Latos Tomasz 109. Lichocka Joanna 110. Lipiec Krzysztof 111. Lisiecki Paweł 112. Lorek Grzegorz 113. Łapiak Aleksandra 114. Ławniczak Tomasz 115. Machałek Marzena 116. Macierewicz Antoni 117. Maląg Marlena Magdalena 118. Malik Ewa 119. Małecki Jerzy 120. Małecki Maciej 121. Materna Jerzy 122. Mateusiak-Pielucha Beata 123. Matusiak Grzegorz 124. Matuszewski Marek 125. Matuszny Kazimierz 126. Milczanowska Anna 127. Milewski Daniel 128. Morawiecki Mateusz 129. Mosiński Jan 130. Moskal Kazimierz 131. Mrówczyński Aleksander 132. Mularczyk Arkadiusz 133. Murdzek Wojciech 134. Müller Piotr 135. Nowicka Danuta 136. Ociepa Marcin 137. Olejniczak Waldemar 138. Olszewski Dariusz 139. Ołdakowski Adam 140. Osuch Jacek 141. Ozdoba Jacek 142. Paluch Anna 143. Pamuła Teresa 144. Paul Jerzy 145. Pawłowska Monika 146. Piecha Bolesław 147. Piechowiak Grzegorz 148. Pieczarka Anna 149. Piontkowski Dariusz 150. Płażyński Kacper 151. Płonka Elżbieta 152. Pogoda Szymon 153. Polaczek Jerzy, 154. Polak Marek 155. Polak Piotr 156. Porowska Violetta 157. Porzucek Marcin 158. Puda Grzegorz 159. Rau Zbigniew 160. Romanowski Rafał 161. Rusecka Urszula 162. Rychlik Paweł 163. Rzymkowski Tomasz 164. Sak Piotr 165. Sasin Jacek (He of the „Miecz Rydzyka” affair) 166. Schmidt Anna 167. Schreiber Łukasz 168. Sellin Jarosław (Conservator General for Historical Monuments !!) 169. Siarka Edward 170. Sipiera Zdzisław 171. Skwarek Sławomir 172. Smoliński Kazimierz 173. Sobolewski Krzysztof 174. Soboń Artur 175. Soin Agnieszka 176. Sójka Katarzyna 177. Stachowiak-Różecka Mirosława 178. Stefaniuk Dariusz 179. Strzałka Beata 180. Suski Marek 181. Szałabawka Artur 182. Szarama Wojciech 183. Szczurek-Żelazko Józefa 184. Szefernaker Paweł 185. Szlachta Andrzej 186. Szulowski Krzysztof 187. Szwed Stanisław 188. Szymańska Ewa 189. Szynkowski vel Sęk Szymon 190. Śniadek Janusz 191. Śnieżek Adam 192. Świat Jacek 193. Tchórzewski Krzysztof 194. Telus Robert 195. Terlecki Ryszard 196. Tomaszewski Włodzimierz 197. Trepka Mariusz 198. Tułajew Sylwester 199. Uruski Piotr 200. Uściński Piotr 201. Warchoł Marcin 202. Wargocka Teresa 203. Warwas Robert 204. Warzecha Jan 205. Wassermann Małgorzata 206. Wawrzyk Piotr 207. Wąsik Maciej 208. Weber Rafał 209. Wesoły Marek 210. Wicher Patryk 211. Witek Elżbieta 212. Wojciechowski Grzegorz 213. Wojtyszek Agata Katarzyna 214. Woś Michał 215. Woźniak Grzegorz Adam 216. Woźniak Tadeusz 217. Wójcik Michał 218. Wróblewski Bartłomiej 219. Zawiślak Sławomir 220. Zielińska Elżbieta 221. Zieliński Jarosław 222. Zieliński Tomasz 223. Ziobro Zbigniew 224. Zubowski Wojciech 225. Zyska Ireneusz.
Posłowie Konfederacja głosujący "Za"
Eleven parliamentarians in the Sejm, one was absent. Nine voted ‘for’, one abstained.
1. Berkowicz Konrad, 2. Bosak Krzysztof, 3. Braun Grzegorz, 4. Kamiński Krystian, 5. Siarkowska Anna Maria, 6. Sośnierz Dobromir, 7. Tuduj Krzysztof, 8. Tyszka Stanisław, 9. Urbaniak Michał, (abstained, Korwin-Mikke Janusz).
Posłowie Kukiz15 głosujący "Za"
Just three parliamentarians in the Sejm, all voted 'for':
1 Kukiz Paweł, 2. Sachajko Jarosław, 3. Żuk Stanisław.
Sachajko was the 'author' of the initial draft of this legislation.
Posłowie Polskie Sprawy głosujący "Za"
Just three parliamentarians in the Sejm, all voted 'for':
1. Girzyński Zbigniew, 2. Sośnierz Andrzej, 3. Ścigaj Agnieszka.
Independents
There are nine of these, seven voted – two ‘for’, five ‘against’
For: Ajchler Zbigniew , Mejza Łukasz
The latter result perhaps shows what the results might have looked like if the MPs had thought independently about the material made available by the archaeologists, and not simply voted the way they were told to by the Party.
From what I can gather only about five of these "representatives of the Party people" agreed to meet the archaeologists who were willing to give up their time to explain to them what this is all about. The majority simply refused any attempts of contact. Two of those who were met listened to what they'd been told, then mouthed the slogans they'd heard from the detectorists lobbyists, which showed they'd not understood a word about what "conservation" of the archaeological record is. As a colleague remarked "Też mną wstrząsnęła
wypowiedź p. [...]iej. Utwierdza mnie to w przekonaniu, że
może poza tytułami ustaw, nikt tam nie czyta ich treści. To jest przerażające" [I was also shocked by Mr. [...]'s statement. This confirms my belief that, apart from the titles of laws, no one reads their content. It's horrifying]. The title says the law is "about" protecting sites and monuments, and so random people, digging random holes into random places, and pulling out random metal artefacts from them "must" be some form of protection of those sites and monuments and the archaeological information they contain[ed], no?
This is just so horrifying, and shows just how this government works and all those laws they passed were passed in the same way - which is why Poland has so many problems with its neighbours. I want these names online, these people are as responsible as the guys with metal detectors that will from now on, phone in hand, be out there digging up whatever they fancy, where they fancy, how they fancy and when they have a fancy to. And what damage they do, nobody will ever know as the conservator's role is reduced to squinting at the photos of some muddy corroded bits of metal on the "application" this law mandates and deciding what to make of them.
In my opinion, NONE of these people should be considered eligible for the role of Euro-MPs since what they have just passed goes completely against European principles (such as in the Valetta Convention) just as much as a lot of other PiS-sponsored legislation.
Nie głosujcie na tych ludzi.
[PS any MP named above is welcome to come here and tell us in the comments why they think this law is a "good thing" and why I should not name them here as co-responsible for destruction of our country's archaeological heritage. Please do, we are all eager to see just how much you know about that archaeology that you feel empowered to take such decisions that affect it without adequate consultation and fact-finding. In any language].
UPDATE (2.09.2023)
Since he signed the thing into law today, we can add Andrzej Duda, President of the Republic of Poland, onto this list of people responsible for this.
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