
The motion asks for the return of its Cypriot and Chinese coins because the ACCG has rebutted the government's case for forfeiture with expert testimony.
But, surely the whole point is that the ACCG in the House of Angels HQ never received the coins from Spink's in London, who shipped them (apparently without the right paperwork) because they were stopped at the border. I cannot see how property which has not been received can be "returned". The objects should be returned to the sender - Spink's with a request from the US government to British Customs to check if an offence has been committed according to the UK legislation (in this case the Dealing in Cultural Objects (Offences) Act 2003). Anyhow, the new assault on common decency by the coin dealers seems a bit pointless:
The expert testimony of Douglas Mudd [Curator at American Numismatic Association] shows that it is more probable than not that the coins were outside of either Cyprus or China before restrictions were imposed. The expert testimony of Michael McCullough, Esq. demonstrates that the Cypriot coins were legally exported from the UK which under EU law binding on Cyprus satisfies US law.You wonder what these people eat for breakfast. It is more probable than not that Douglas Mudd has never had these specific coins in hand, and if he has seen the business documentation of Spink's then it should be Spink's who should be stating what they should have stated at the beginning of the case to import the coins to the US legally under the CCPIA. The fault here is the seller's. They are the only expert witness which matters here - and there was a chance to present that information at the beginning of the case. Michael McCullough, Esq. will be aware that the fact that something leaves one country legally does not automatically qualify it for legal entry into another. The US has a law which requires this category of artefact to have certain paperwork to enter the country legally. If it has not got that paperwork, not even a papal blessing will substitute for the missing documentation by US law.
Maybe expert Douglas Mudd would like to run through these coins he claims to know so much about and tell us what he thinks each of them is...
2 comments:
Mr Barford, why do you publish such misleading comments and falsehoods which reveal simply your extreme bias, complete ignorance of US law and general misunderstanding of the issues at stake (http://reubensantiquities.blogspot.com/2016/07/accg-test-case-continues.html)?
"Ben" these are not your words are they? Maybe you would like to ask Dealer dave (no longer ion the ACCG I understand) to justify what here is "false", "misleading". Can he? Can he show that what I write is in any way "ignorant of US law"? And where is it I "misunderstand the issues at stake"? I think the problem is rather that I am showing what lies behind the dealers' smokescreen and see very well the actual issue at stake (see my post earlier on today "What RESPONSIBLE collectors are up against" https://paul-barford.blogspot.com/2016/07/the-expert-is-guessing.html).
Bias? I am criticising dodgy dealers' tactics. In what way is it a bias challenging this crap masking dodgy practices if we would all like to see a clean, transparent and accountable antiquities market? As a collector yourself, is that not what you want to see? Is it?
Go on "Ben" ask Mr Welsh, ask him to come out of hiding on close discussion lists and put his money where his mouth is and come on here and show where what I write about the pathetic ACCG case is any of the things he alleges. "Ben", do you think he dares? "Ben" do you dare challenge him to do so? Go on "Ben".
Or maybe you yourself want to try and back up your words. Come on "Ben", Try me.
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