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Now the period for the submission of comments on the renewal of the Cyprus bilateral cultiral property agreement is almost over and the three hundred philistine collectors who really do not care whether what they buy was lawfully exported or not have had their say, I thought it might be instructive to gather together in one post some of those who wrote to oppose the philistinism. The following list is probably not exhaustive, but one or two general characteristics do emerge. A lot of them stress that they are engaged in positions where they know, from first hand experience many of them, what they are talking about. they cite examples, publications, sources of information. this almost never occurs in the coiney rants. Many of the White Hat guys and ladies on this list are PhDs or professors. Most of them were not content with a hastily tapped-out misspelt three line inarticulate expression of opposition, cut and pasting a dealers' lobbyist's stock "suggested objections" (which I have dealt with earlier here). Most of these people wrote their contributions as a separate file which is attached as a pdf or Word document. Very few coineys wrote anything elaborate enough to require that. So here's the roll call of those rallying to the aid of the Cypriot cultural heritage. Many of these contributions are worth reading in their own right. Note that there are (real) numismatists in this list.
Lefki Michaelidou and Eleni Zapiti, The Director and Curator of the Numismatic Collection, Bank of Cyprus Cultural Foundation.
Jane DeRose Evans Professor, Art History, affiliated with the Department of Greek and Roman Classics (Fellow, American Numismatic Society, Member of the Royal Numismatic Society, Numismatist for the Harvard Expeditions to Sardis).
Elizabeth Greene, Brock University
Ioannis Eliades, Byzantine Museum & Art Gallery of the Archbishop Makarios III Foundation
Charalampos Chotzakoglou World Foundation for religion and Culture, Cyprus
Professor Sturt Manning, Cornell University
Professor Arthur Knapp, Cyprus American Archaeological Research Institute
Dr Andrew McCarthy, Director Cyprus American Archaeological Research Institute
Professor Nicolle Hirschfeld, Dept. of Classical Studies, Trinity University
Dr. Georgia Bonny Bazemore Jeffers, R. Chertok Professor of Ancient History Eastern Washington University
Joseph Greene, Harvard University
Professor Michael Tomlan, Cornell University, Heritage Watch.
Matthew Harpster, Kyrenia Shipwreck Collection Restoration Program (interesting other suggestion)
Jennifer Webb, La Trobe University
Ambassador Loucas Tsilas, Executive Director, Onassis Foundation (USA)
Judith A Wheelock
Shaikh Saeed.
Elliott Minoff, The Association for Promoting the Relations Between Israel and Cyprus.
Professor Eric Cline, The GWU Capitol Archaeological Institute at The George Washington University.
Christine Morris, Trinity College Dublin.
Christopher Schabel, University of Cyprus.
Maria Parani, University of Cyprus.
Paul Croft, University of Edinburgh.
Lindy Crewe, University of Manchester
Professor David Gill's submission
Sharon Cather Courtauld Institute of Art, University of London
Janice Colebrook from Cyprus
Anne Santen AIA
Elizabeth Bartmann AIA (a problem with the attachments?)
Margaret Morden AIA Toronto
Vignette: The upright characters portrayed by John Wayne would have supported the MOU I am sure, they wear a white hat.
Tuesday, 3 January 2012
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Another numismatist on the list; my comments were sent in the old-fashioned.
Please explain why these people are "white hats?" Are you suggesting those opposed to the MOU (it would appear again to be the vast majority) are bad people in some respect?
And if CPAC twice in the past voted against including coins, were they "black hats" in some way?
I would also note that the vast number of your so-called "white hats" have, if not a direct financial interest, a professional interest in supporting the cultural bureaucracy that issues them excavation permits or otherwise supports their work.
As for the content of the comments. it looks to me that many really don't address the four determinations either. As for the comments directed at coins, it is interesting that they are either non-responsive to the issues before CPAC (BOC) or actually supportive of many of the factual points raised by the numismatic community in 2007 related to the circulation of coins and the difficulty of attribution (Evans).
I was looking for yours to mention, so glad to hear you made it, Nathan. I am sure there were other comments which were sent on paper, probably the longer ones giving more justifications of the views they represent than the average coiney can manage.
[Black Hat guys are the villains in old western films and the good guys wear the white hats]
Yes, in my view, the preservationists and conservationists are the white hat guys. Those who oppose these measures and hold out for no-questions-asked collecting of potentially unlawfully exported coins are the bad guys in my book. That is the message I want to get over in my blog.
If the CPAC decided that ancient coins were not archaeological artefacts worthy of protection when others were, I certainly think the world deserves to know WHY (get that in your next FOI request).
For the record, I think the WHOLE US CPAC/CCPIA system completely stupid, an anachronism, cumbersome, wonky logic and an insult to the rest of us. I think the US should withdraw from the UNESCO Convention and stop pretending. Let public opinion see the US antiquities market (as represented by the stance of the ACCG) for what it is. But until it does, let us see the CCPIA actually doing some "protecting" instead of just being a convenient smokescreen for no-questions-asked dealing to hide behind while container loads of unlawfully exported dugup artefacts openly circulate unchecked on the US market.
A "financial" interest? What is clear is the people writing in support of MOU renewal mostly show know what they are talking about. The three hundred coiney naysayers are basically cutting-and-pasting what they have been urged/persuaded/told to write by the ACCG dealers (who DO indeed have a financial interest in the flow of lots of coins out of the source countries and into their stockrooms). That is the difference between them.
The supporters of renewal here are supplying the sort of comment that can contribute to a committee's deliberations. The naysayers are just kicking up a background noise of opposition. The comments they send are as much use in deliberations as if they'd gathered outside the State Department with banners and megaphones shouting their opposition at the committee members as they turn up for the meeting. The three hundred naysaying comments are a virtual flashmob, that can only be seen as an annoyance and, I would say, not a real attempt to contribute to the debate. But let us see what the CPAC thinks of their "heartfelt" efforts in self-interest.
I am a Cypriot Citizen who for a time was also a collector of Cypriot ancient coins. I have since stopped collecting this branch of ancient numismatics due to the amazing amount of hypocrisy I have noted on both sides of the community (collecting and anti-collecting). A prime example of what I mean is the comment submitted (re the renewal of the Cypriot MOU) by Lefki Michaelidou and Eleni Zapiti of the Bank of Cyprus cultural foundation. They are much in favor of the renewal and yet there are coins in the BOCCF collection that were acquired via dubious means. Many coins in this collection were found by metal detectorists within the last 10-20 years and have subsequently found their way into the BOCCF collection. I have images of coins that were illegally offered to me (and refused on my part) that are now in the collection of the BOCCF. I am quite sure that they now have been quite legitimized and have rock solid provenances! This is the problem with this whole issue. Both sides of the matter seem to have ulterior motives and I am quite happy to simply ignore 95% of the comments submitted as being totally biased, one way or another. This is also the main reason that I do not agree with your 'white hat / black hat' conclusions as it seems that there are plenty of 'black hats' in the supporters of the Cypriot MOU too.
@Numismanonymous
This "BOCCF collection" is in Cyprus or the USA?
The CCPIA regulates collecting within the territory of Cyprus, or does it regulate imports into the United States of America?
What is your point? That two wrongs make a right?
" I am quite happy to simply ignore 95% of the comments submitted as being totally biased, one way or another. "
As I am sure we are all sure the CPAC have the intelligence in fact to do. Coin collectors biased one way, archies the other. It's just the dugup dealers who are objective, eh?
The terms white and black hats should be understood to be used here somewhat tongue-in-cheek.
(Come to think of it, my own [physical not metaphorical] hat is a very dirty buff-dusty-grey)
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